>something none of the existing releases opted to include probably because FLAC is just a placebo, especially for anime

Placebo or not, it is a rather undeniable fact that many archivists prefer lossless audio over lossy, and thus Blu-ray 1080p FLAC releases are popularly sought after. Obviously everyone has their own opinions and their own ideas of what should or shouldn't be done, but our releases cater to this specific demographic of anime fans. If you're not one of them well there are plenty of other options in which one may suit your fancy. However, you misunderstood what we meant. It's not that none of the others opted to include FLAC, but that they all seemed to have converted it 16-bit rather than maintain the original 24-bits of the source which is why we stepped up.

>Placebo or not, it is a rather undeniable fact that many archivists prefer lossless audio over lossy, and thus Blu-ray 1080p FLAC releases are popularly sought after. yes, but those people are idiots, so most people don't bother bloating their releases by multiple gigabytes to pander to them. >but our releases cater to this specific demographic of anime fans "our releases"? this is your first upload.

> FLAC is just a placebo Right, because obviously there is absolutely zero difference in raw data between lossless and lossy audio. /s Is the difference audible? No, probably not, but that's not the point of **lossless** audio in the first place, so your argument is moot. You always talk a big game, yet your very own group continues to release upscaled 1080p encodes. Might want to think about that before trying to lecture others on the topic of 'placebo' and 'bloat'.

Typical response. Anyone who doesn't agree with you must be an idiot. People aren't allowed to have their own belief unless it fits your criteria. Storage is cheap, anyone crying about space is simply too poor to be archiving and should just watch and delete or look for 720p AAC options. In any case, we don't make releases to "pander" to anyone. We make them with the ideals we hold and how we personally want to archive them. Sharing them with the public is just "extra". As previously stated, if you don't fit the demographic, you're free to look elsewhere. Perhaps under this account and tag sure, but that doesn't mean everyone in the team has never released anything before.

>Is the difference audible? No, probably not, but that’s not the point of lossless audio in the first place, so your argument is moot. no, that's literally the entire point. why increase the filesize for no perceivable benefit? >You always talk a big game, yet your very own group continues to release upscaled 1080p encodes. my group? if you mean commie, i don't control what anyone else does. >Storage is cheap, anyone crying about space is simply too poor to be archiving and should just watch and delete or look for 720p AAC options. that's not a good excuse to waste it. besides, that's not why i commented. i thought your reason for including it was stupid. making an entire release to include 24-bit flac instead of 16-bit flac is dumb as fuck. >Perhaps under this account and tag sure, but that doesn’t mean everyone in the team has never released anything before. but you listed no staff, so how am i supposed to know that? i can't read your mind.

We look forward to more pointless yet comedic herkz commentary on future projects.

someone has to break up all you dual audio BD groups circlejerking each other off. btw, do you guys have some place you communicate outside the site or is it just a coincidence that you always come to each other's defense? every time i comment on a release like this one, there's always a comment from another group defending the uploader.

^ I think the [dual-audio] bit attracts the same people each time tbh. And I agree with herkz here. I've never been able to tell the difference between AAC and FLAC audio in anime, but because people would make such a massive fuss over it I assumed the fault lay with my speakers, earphones, headphones, and my own ears. But even after upgrading to higher end headphones I genuinely can't hear a difference (and turns out my hearing is perfectly fine). Yet there are still a lot of people who insist they can hear a difference. I dun geddit.

> no, that’s literally the entire point. why increase the filesize for no perceivable benefit? Encoding DTS-HD / TrueHD / LPCM audio to FLAC actually lowers the size, but okay. I encode to FLAC because, as mentioned before, that's what archivists want. I want to retain the best possible quality regardless of whether or not I can hear the difference. It's not like other people can't grab a FLAC release and encode the audio to AAC if they wish to do so, you know? But the opposite can't be said. I can't grab an AAC release and magicially increase the quality or bring back more data. Besides, it's not like everyone provides the same lossy audio quality. There's plenty of releases where the difference can be heard. I'm glad there's plenty of trackers out there that don't share the same mentality as you, because that would just lower the quality of your average anime release. If I had the chance, I would archive the original video track from blu-rays as well, but since they're riddled with problems that's not an option. > my group? if you mean commie, i don’t control what anyone else does. So you insist on shitting on other people's releases for using FLAC audio (and upscaled 1080p encodes as well if I'm not mistaken), but not those of your own group. Hypocrisy at its finest.

>It’s not like other people can’t grab a FLAC release and encode the audio to AAC if they wish to do so, you know? but even if someone wanted to re-encode the audio, they have to waste time downloading the bloated flac, so that defeats the entire purpose. i don't care if you personally want to keep the lossless audio on your hard drive, but it's useless in a release. >If I had the chance, I would archive the original video track from blu-rays as well, but since they’re riddled with problems that’s not an option. yet, by your own logic, you still should since you need it if you ever wanted to do a new encode like you need the lossless audio to make a new lossy encode. >So you insist on shitting on other people’s releases for using upscaled 1080p encodes and FLAC audio, but not those of your own group. Hypocrisy at its finest. well, no commie release uses FLAC, so nothing to shit on there. and no one else in commie is really active anymore, so criticizing them now would be pointless. you may notice all those "upscaled" releases you're talking about are rather old. i think you're just really stuck on trying to make me look like a hypocrite for some reason. even if i was, that doesn't make what i say wrong. might want to switch to a new argument.

> but even if someone wanted to re-encode the audio, they have to waste time downloading the bloated flac, so that defeats the entire purpose. i don’t care if you personally want to keep the lossless audio on your hard drive, but it’s useless in a release. I feel like a release that retains the maximum possible audio quality is vastly more important than someone having to 'waste time' downloading it. On a similar note: I don't care if you have to spend more time downloading it. I don't care if it's usless for you. For myself, and other archivists, it is most definitely not useless. All of this stuff comes down to subjectivity in the end. > yet, by your own logic, you still should since you need it if you ever wanted to do a new encode like you need the lossless audio to make a new lossy encode. Yes, I should - but I won't. Not physically atleast (I do have a lot of them archived online, free of cost). I simply can't afford the storage to archive complete BDMVs of any show I may or may not want to watch in the future. There's also time and resources to take into account. Encoding to FLAC takes a fraction of the time it takes to filter and encode an episode. For all I know I might not have the proper resources in the future to be able to encode something again. And I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck in that position with poor-looking BDMVs. > well, no commie release uses FLAC Nyaa search results seem to indicate otherwise. > you may notice all those “upscaled” releases you’re talking about are rather old There's plenty of upscaled 1080p Commie releases from last year. > i think you’re just really stuck on trying to make me look like a hypocrite for some reason. even if i was, that doesn’t make what i say wrong. might want to switch to a new argument. That's generally how you make people understand their own flawed reasoning. But yeah, you're not wrong. Or right, since most of this stuff comes down to preference.

Thx!

I wonder what spectral analysis shows of an AAC vs a 24 bit FLAC encode of this film shows. I can't take anybody's claims at face value. But I do know the source audio is not 'AAC' in terms of raw, so it can't be called 'accurate' to automatically reduce it down to lossy.

Lol, so much bickering over who's right or who's wrong xD Just use .vlc and try keeping 1080p releases of episodes under 1GB each, and videos under 3GB, and you're pretty much golden in anyone's eyes.

like Herkz said FLAC isn’t good for anime to begin with but dual-track 24bit is some next-level shit

You can just include the separate audio tracks if you want to retain the so call "loseless". Anyone with an IQ higher than 3 will be able to check which contents to be downloaded. fucking peace out.

> please lower the quality of your audio so it suits my own preferences Or one can continue to include FLAC as the main audio tracks and anyone with an IQ higher than 2 who doesn’t like that can just gtfo and download another release? I dunno, sounds like a better strategy to me. Anyone who is that concerned about size shouldn’t be downloading x264 1080p upscales in the first place.

Scyrous has lost it, they're quoting things that haven't been said.

Its called paraphrasing

> Its called paraphrasing nope this what we called "read between the lines"

paraphrase /ˈparəfreɪz Learn to pronounce verb gerund or present participle: paraphrasing express the meaning of (something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.

24-bit FLAC doesn't make sense for end-users because 16-bit covers more than the entire dynamic range that's actually needed if mastered properly. 24-bit is used for ease of in-studio editing. By "needed" I mean if you were to actually use the full dynamic range it offers, you'd be causing hearing damage. Lossless audio does make sense though from an archival point of view. Since BDMVs often need filtering, archiving a filtered encode with a FLAC encoded audio track makes sense. I wouldn't make another generation of reencodes off the video track, but having the lossless version of the audio in wide circulation seems like a good idea from a "not getting lost to time" perspective. Go ride your bicycle or something.

thank you I was waiting for a good dub release

I don't get it,why people complain when they are getting something for free. If you don't see this release as a good one, just don't download it. Maybe wait for someone else's release and there are a lot of groups that encodes low file size.

Jesus-lossy audio (mp3, aac et al) is so yesterday. It's a fact-lossless audio is superior to lossy, you don't need dog ears to tell the difference. Taking a good quality lossless audio track and converting it to lossy is really stupid. High capacity hdds and ssds are dirt cheap so doing it to save a tiny amount of storage space simply doesn't make any sense in this day and age. If you want lossy audio be my guest, I'll take flac, DTS HD MA, Dolby True HD and whatever over shitty lossy codecs any day.

I agree 100% with Koala, I am fine with 16-bit FLAC, but 24-bit is just bloat, all you gain is white-noise which isn't even percievable to the human ear. It's only good to have it if you need to do some audio engineering with the audio. Even archivists shouldn't really give a shit about 24-bit flac. I remuxed almost all my 24-bit flac releases to 16-bit and saved hundreds of Gigabytes with 0 perceivable loss, and the format is still in a lossless format for future use. Main issue with me doing that though, is it can't be seeded from or rechecked against CRC hashes etc. Which is a huge downside. As HDD sizes increase it won't be as much of an issue but people's collections are also increasing. I have 16tb of anime right now, so the whole "storage is cheap" and "it's only a few gigabytes" arguments fall flat for anyone with a serious collection.

16TB is not a "serious collection". That is a rookie collection.

thank you for this release

24bit flac is better than aac so ill take it

I have a version that I made for myself that I'd never upload here because of all you whining assholes. It's made from the UNCOMPRESSED japanese video, the DTSHD MA english audio from the us bluray along with custom subs-about 33 gigs worth. Go suck on a donkey dick.

Thanks for the release, bunch of cry babies in the section

Does nobody have a 1080p subbed version with 5.1 eac3 or DTSHD. aac is a joke and flac wont do pass-through and has to be converted to pcm and then output. The few eac3 versions on here that i found were all 720p

> aac is a joke and flac wont do pass-through and has to be converted to pcm and then output. I can't follow your reasoning. How is AAC a joke? And why is outputting uncompressed multichannel PCM a problem? It's just as lossless as FLAC and DTS passthrough.

Pls seed

> asking for seeds on a fully seeded torrent. @lol_wayback Clearly the torrent is seeded fine. Check your internet.

Did you apply antialiasing to this? The lines are blurred compared to the source yet your encoding settings don't look to be responsible. It's blurred even on keyframes.

For god's sake, when are you going to grow up? Are you such a loser or a spoiled child? If you dont like this upload, just move on. No one is going to thank you for downloading it for FREE. Yes, FREE. OK, I feel better now....LOL

@Scyrous: I would say it's wrong to say it's not different between lossless (FLAC) and lossy audio. I have tested it with poor Apple headphones, and you can hear a slightly significant difference in audio tracks. However, I am not sure about anime movie audio, so that you may have a point in that context.