Urusei Yatsura Movie 2 - Beautiful Dreamer [No-AI] (LDRip 640x480 x265 10-bit AAC) (Dual-Audio) :: Nyaa ISS

Urusei Yatsura Movie 2 - Beautiful Dreamer [No-AI] (LDRip 640x480 x265 10-bit AAC) (Dual-Audio)

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# Urusei Yatsura - Movie 2: Beautiful Dreamer LaserDisc Project ### 480p No-AI version You might be wondering to yourself: Is there a need for this? Yes - Yes there is. If you're curious about the details, read the history below. It's been an interesting journey. This release is brought to you by Nyard and Darkonius with helpful assistance online. **Tl;dr: This LaserDisc release is the currently best way to watch Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer in open matte 4:3.** A direct comparison between Bluray, DVD and our LD (Titled Median2 here - Not the final picture quality) which highlights the difference in matte: https://imgsli.com/NjAzMjk/0/2 ## The History The Urusei Yatsura movies were originally produced in 4:3, and though Oshii himself favors the widescreen version of Beautiful Dreamer which eventually made it onto Bluray releases, me and Darkonius wanted to have a better way of enjoying this movie than the ones that were available. Let's go through the easily available options. We have the BluRay version, which is a clean scan but maybe looks a little dark and is cropped: https://i.imgur.com/e1C7kmQ.jpeg And we had [LRE], with a full 4:3 ratio DVD Rip but judge the quality for yourself: https://i.imgur.com/2vWiJbG.jpg So as you can see most people here would certainly choose the Bluray even with the tremendous amount of picture that is lost to the crop. A little bit of digging revealed, that all of the other Urusei Yatsura Movies happen to have good 4:3 DVD releases. Find them here: https://nyaa.iss.one/view/972837 Notice how this batch torrent went with the widescreen version of Beautiful Dreamer. Why is that? Feeling smart, me and Darkonius decide to just buy some different DVD Releases hoping that at least one of them turns out to look better than what we had so far and that we could do a better encode. First up: No japanese DVD releases in 4:3! The movie has been in widescreen in Japan since the 1996 LD set, and the JP DVD and BDs simply followed. Only foreign DVD releases feature Beautiful Dreamer in a full 4:3 scan. So we got those and... They're genuinely awful! We acquired a 1998 USMC DVD and a later digitally remastered 2004 US DVD, both feature heavy frameblending ( https://i.imgur.com/h75a1ZA.png ) and the image quality remained so sub par that it was clear that these were operating off of poor masters. The producer of the Bluray release for Beautiful Dreamer had this to say on the old 4:3 masters: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14774189&postcount=75 Reading the line "The best 4:3 version out there commercially, I believe, is the Japanese laserdisc." meant that the mission going forward was clear. Time to get some Japanese LaserDiscs from the time before the 1996 Set. The first LaserDisc we got our hands on was TLL-2189 with digital audio. The image quality was a lot better, but we noticed quickly that it was likely using the same frameblended masters as USMC's American releases. This was the huge blow for our motivation because the image quality was very nice compared to the DVD: https://imgsli.com/NDc4MTE So we went and acquired a TLL-2001 LaserDisc, one with analog audio. We were surprised to find that this release had even more of the frame! Turns out this release is open matte, whereas the other 4:3 releases were all slightly zoomed in. Restoring EVEN MORE of the original picture made us quite excited. A direct comparison between Bluray, DVD and our LD (Titled Median2 here - Not the final picture quality) which highlights the difference in matte: https://imgsli.com/NjAzMjk/0/2 And well what do you know: Finally we don't have frameblending anymore either! But a new villain has entered the frame: DISCROT. LaserDiscs age and they deteriorate. This manifests in funny flakes all over your perfectly fine and not frameblended Urusei Yatsura movie: https://i.imgur.com/DdSgPLv.png There's ways to reverse some of the damage done to a LaserDisc by discrot and that requires owning at least 3 of the same LD master and filtering them with vapoursynth-median stacking. This plugin basically compares any given pixel between the 3 sources and if one has rot on it and 2 are fine then it will choose the undamaged color for that pixel. This way the rot is removed almost completely. So, yeah. We went and got 2 more TLL-2001 LDs. It worked beautifully. And here our 3 different versions come into play. The biggest issue with TLL-2001 really is intense ringing artifacts. No Vapoursynth filter chain I could come up with was able to tame it, so we ended up using an AI upscaler trained on removing ringing to restore as much detail from this picture as is possible. This is perhaps the part where some purists will fall out of their chairs, but I think the improvement speaks for itself - Ringing is not eliminated completely, but in key scenes it is tamed. But don't worry, we will provide 3 versions: 480p without any AI, 480p which is downscaled from AI (just cleans it up nicely) and 960p AI Upscaled. Let's look at a few comparisons between the 3 versions so you can make a decision: https://imgsli.com/NjI1NTI ## What issues remain? The TLL-2001 LaserDisc doesn't have perfect colors, overall its rather dark and sometimes darker colors will be crushed to almost black. This isn't due to the processing, but already present in the source. Because I can't for the life of me figure out color correction I left it as is. If any brave color correctors want to try their hand at it, we can talk about getting you a lossless version to work on. Because it is open matte we also sometimes have frames that are just smaller, so black bars may appear on top and bottom occasionally. We opted to not crop any further because the open matte really was the point of this whole enterprise. Other than that we're still having a definitive ringing problem, the AI version addresses this quite a bit, but even there some artifacts remain. And lastly: Jitter. You will notice this release to be quite jittery. We didn't want to go for invasive stabilization methods here, because they can at times really mess with the video. Also in the AI versions there is the occasional artifact where the AI got confused with the grain and decided the grain is actually a kind of texture. For the most egregious scenes we spliced in the no-AI version. With that we believe that the AI versions have such a significant improvement in visual quality, that the negative effects are far outweighed. ## Tl;Dr: I didn't read the history, so why are there 3 Versions of this torrent? We release this movie in two different 480p versions and in 960p. The regular 480p version only has the basic processing done to it, so purists can enjoy the experience. The other 480p version (AI) is simply a downscaled version from the 960p version (also AI). This way the AI Upscaler serves the function of a high-effort de-noising, de-ringing and sharpening filter, which beats out most alternatives we've investigated. But because of the current promising state of AI upscaling a genuine case can be made for 960p as following comparison illustrates: https://imgsli.com/NjI1NTI ~~Find the 960p AI Version here: https://nyaa.iss.one/view/1413852~~ (edit 10/23/22: As of recently this version was removed from nyaa, find it here https://mega.nz/file/g35UEZ4Q#keeR-lE7WM68hFDDzT98DyKL7Zef12pUEoZ4Miwgy4M ) Find the 480p AI Version here: https://nyaa.iss.one/view/1413854 ## What is included in this release: Audio Tracks: - Japanese LD Digital Audio from TLL-2189 Stereo (AAC 212kpbs) - Japanese LD Analog Audio from TLL-2001 Stereo (AAC 293kpbs) - Japanese Bluray 5.1 (AAC 461kpbs) - English Dub Bluray Stereo (AAC 173kpbs) - Commentary Track with Mamoru Oshii Stereo (AAC 162kpbs) Sub Tracks: - English Subs adapted from DVD subs with some things copied frome Live-eviL (such as Karaoke and translations to some signs) - English Subs for the commentary track straight from the 2004 DVD (Ugly yellow!)

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  • Urusei Yatsura Movie 2 - Beautiful Dreamer [No-AI] (LDRip 640x480 x265 10-bit AAC).mkv (3.4 GiB)
Nice. Just one question: is there a reason why the LD audio tracks have been compressed to AAC?
You are doing an amazing job that Discotek couldn't even to even bother to add as an extra.This is an amazing upload! Thanks!
@yeeahokaywhatever I don't think it's that they "couldn't bother", it's more that they only got the blended 4:3 master (from the US DVDs and TLL-2189) either from Toho or from their own archives and decided that that wasn't worth including (which I can understand - it's not great). Back when they released Beautiful Dreamer (Announced at Otakon 2016, released in February of 2018 iirc), the Domesday86 project wasn't where it is now and hadn't caught their attention yet, and even if they had it they'd still have to figure out which Laserdiscs to get and how to fix them up for release - there are 3 Japanese Discs, only one has the open matte, and that one is [rotty as hell](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493748336265003008/834338336708493322/vlcsnap-2021-04-21-10h01m16s806.png). It's a lot of time and effort spent on something that might not return anything. Which is why people like us had to tackle it first. Not to mention our AI stuff in the other versions. That being said, now that this is proven to exist and work, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to include something like this as a special in a future Collector's Edition. Or maybe someone at Toho decides that they should try and make open matte / 4:3 BDs of the films.

Nyard (uploader)

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@scav File size. TLL-2189 audio as flac would have been 368 MB, TLL-2001 as PCM (.wav) would have been 979 MB. I chose to include 5 Audio tracks at reasonable compression levels because otherwise this would easily double the filesize of the release. If there's any demand for it I can of course upload the uncompressed audio tracks and you can mux them into your version.
that was a lot of work, lol, big thanks for that would it be too much to ask for the japanese lossless audio tracks? would like to have that too

Nyard (uploader)

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@ScarletNeko Here you go: https://mega.nz/folder/A2RSmRLQ#MdB0feiPxwpe0G5eCpPD5A
Thanks for the uncompressed tracks
got them, thank you '3'
Thank you very much Any chance you might add a 480p/720p AVC8bit version in the future? It doesn’t get any purer than that. I get the intention of x265 and applaud it. But how can purists enjoy something encoded with x265 when media begins x264 (AVC 8bit). What purists want is simple. Anime the way it was originally released as envisioned by it’s creator. All media begins as 8bit the same way its been since the beginning. Studios continue investing millions every year in research and development improving video compression technology… There’s a couple things that work really well with LaserDisc players (everything actually). When added increases the audio/video quality twice what it was. Primarily used with projectors. On LED/LCD/Plasma screens. Older media quality looks even better. 1. Line Doubler it makes a copy of every line of video instead of the entire picture as a whole then places it next to the copy. Mash it up and you have video quality twice what it was. (IMO is the single greatest inventions created for improving video quality at the time) 2. D.A.C. (Digital Analog Converter) Fiber optic out to L/R RCA input. The difference in sound quality is amazing. A line doubler would be extremely beneficial for what your doing. Media Player Classic has a option for a software version of it as part of its standard player. Although It might take a bit of work to get it to save media that has been processed.
Outstanding work. And thank you for providing 3 different versions, giving everyone a choice. Legendary!
Can you please also rip Yamato final voyage and be forever too?